I see that Jseal had taken some issue with my posting to the previous thread--sorry you have and misunderstand my position. But as for Poland and Denmarks assistance in our involvement in Irqac amounts to next to nothing--barely enough troops contributed to guard a shopping mall and they are more dependant on US forces to keep them safe from terrorest--been there and seen it first hand.

Any person who is killed in war is one too many--loosing flower of our youth though shameless borrowed by me is a fact. It doesn't refer to just a body count--it also refers to the lost innocents, and bitter memories that will haunt the lives of many a serving soldier. Personally I would have perfered to exist ignorant of the ugly face of war and been happier for it. Sadly that is my lot and not the lot of others.

And yes the invasion of Afganistan was to end a terrorest safe havean--and as much as I hate to admit it--it was and should be to kill "verman". I would dearly wish with all my heart that these verman can be reasoned with to end the hate and violence. Yet they will not listen to reason and ignore the parts of their own beliefs that don't suit their views. Thus what else is there but to destroy them? Its reality as hard as it seems.