thanks for the ideas, AZ and Fantasia. And I know what you mean about the painkillers, AZ,almost all of the painklliers I have been on never touched the pain, they just made me not care (which made for an interesting programming class one time lol). The only one that seemed to anything for the pain was Demarol but that was because it pretty much knocked me out.

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