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Eliza 07-02-2003 09:32 PM

6640

When Wilder spins around and tries to push the button for the Wonkavator doors, he misses the button. Surprisingly enough, the doors still open.

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:32 PM

6641

The rock band Veruca Salt takes their name from the bratty little character played here by Julie Cole. Originally a dual-grrl chick band, Nina Gordon left the group in '98, leaving Louise Post to continue on her own (under the same name).

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:33 PM

6642

Peter Ostrum, who plays Charlie Bucket, made no other films. He later became a veterinarian

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:34 PM

6643

Oompa Loompas come from Loompaland, but Willy Wonka secretly transported them to live and work safely in his factory. Loompaland had creatures called horn swagglers, rotten vermicious kinids, and swangdoodles that would eat 10 oompas for breakfast and think nothing of it (as seen in the sequel to Chocolate Factory). Wonka called upon the oompas by playing a short tune on his flute. There were 10 oompas in all, 9 male and 1 female, some of which are dead now, all of which were from all over Europe.

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:37 PM

6644

Oompa Loompa doompadee doo
I've got another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doompadah dee
If you are wise you will listen to me

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:37 PM

6645

Who do you blame when your kid is a brat
Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat?
Blaming the kids is a lion of shame
You know exactly who's to blame:
The mother and the father!

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:38 PM

6646
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Eliza
6610
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men."
~Willy Wonka

This is a great one...I think this needs to go in my sig..


he he he... actually that should be

"A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men."
- Roald Dahl, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

At least that is how I recall it. But I have also seen it quoted the other way (now that I went looking for it). I guess I need to go dig out the book (it HAS to be around here somewhere, but it might be in storage).


Roald Dahl, now there is an author... stuff for kids and stuff for adults (I need to find more of his stuff for adults).

I don't think that I will ever forget the concept of "human beans" and soda pop with bubbles that go down!

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:38 PM

6647

Oompa Loompa doompadee dah
If you're not spoiled then you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doompadee do

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:40 PM

6648
Hi Milk Toast! I wonder if it's the same in the movie as it is in the book? I was just grabbing off the net..but if find out, let me know.

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:42 PM

other things listed as written by Writer Roald Dahl

Alfred Hitchcock Presents (1955) - writer (Episode 3.28: "Lamb to the Slaugghter")
You Only Live Twice (1967) - screenplay
Matilda (1996) - book
James and the Giant Peach (1996) - book
Pisvingers! (1995) - story

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:43 PM

--6650--

TELEVISION

The most important thing we've learned,
So far as children are concerned,
Is never, NEVER, NEVER let
Them near your television set --
Or better still, just don't install
The idiotic thing at all.
In almost every house we've been,
We've watched them gaping at the screen.
They loll and slop and lounge about,
And stare until their eyes pop out.
(Last week in someone's place we saw
A dozen eyeballs on the floor.)
They sit and stare and stare and sit
Until they're hypnotised by it,
Until they're absolutely drunk
With all that shocking ghastly junk.
Oh yes, we know it keeps them still,
They don't climb out the window sill,
They never fight or kick or punch,
They leave you free to cook the lunch
And wash the dishes in the sink --
But did you ever stop to think,
To wonder just exactly what
This does to your beloved tot?
IT ROTS THE SENSE IN THE HEAD!
IT KILLS IMAGINATION DEAD!
IT CLOGS AND CLUTTERS UP THE MIND!
IT MAKES A CHILD SO DULL AND BLIND
HE CAN NO LONGER UNDERSTAND
A FANTASY, A FAIRYLAND!
HIS BRAIN BECOMES AS SOFT AS CHEESE!
HIS POWERS OF THINKING RUST AND FREEZE!
HE CANNOT THINK -- HE ONLY SEES!
'All right!' you'll cry. 'All right!' you'll say,
'But if we take the set away,
What shall we do to entertain
Our darling children? Please explain!'
We'll answer this by asking you,
'What used the darling ones to do?
'How used they keep themselves contented
Before this monster was invented?'
Have you forgotten? Don't you know?
We'll say it very loud and slow:
THEY ... USED ... TO ... READ! They'd READ and READ,
AND READ and READ, and then proceed
To READ some more. Great Scott! Gadzooks!
One half their lives was reading books!
The nursery shelves held books galore!
Books cluttered up the nursery floor!
And in the bedroom, by the bed,
More books were waiting to be read!
Such wondrous, fine, fantastic tales
Of dragons, gypsies, queens, and whales
And treasure isles, and distant shores
Where smugglers rowed with muffled oars,
And pirates wearing purple pants,
And sailing ships and elephants,
And cannibals crouching 'round the pot,
Stirring away at something hot.
(It smells so good, what can it be?
Good gracious, it's Penelope.)
The younger ones had Beatrix Potter
With Mr. Tod, the dirty rotter,
And Squirrel Nutkin, Pigling Bland,
And Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle and-
Just How The Camel Got His Hump,
And How the Monkey Lost His Rump,
And Mr. Toad, and bless my soul,
There's Mr. Rate and Mr. Mole-
Oh, books, what books they used to know,
Those children living long ago!
So please, oh please, we beg, we pray,
Go throw your TV set away,
And in its place you can install
A lovely bookshelf on the wall.
Then fill the shelves with lots of books,
Ignoring all the dirty looks,
The screams and yells, the bites and kicks,
And children hitting you with sticks-
Fear not, because we promise you
That, in about a week or two
Of having nothing else to do,
They'll now begin to feel the need
Of having something to read.
And once they start -- oh boy, oh boy!
You watch the slowly growing joy
That fills their hearts. They'll grow so keen
They'll wonder what they'd ever seen
In that ridiculous machine,
That nauseating, foul, unclean,
Repulsive television screen!
And later, each and every kid
Will love you more for what you did.

Roald Dahl

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:45 PM

6651

I NEVER THOUGHT MY LIFE COULD BE
ANYTHING BUT CATASTROPHE
BUT SUDDENLY I BEGIN TO SEE
A BIT OF GOOD LUCK FOR ME
'CAUSE I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TWINKLE IN MY EYE
I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SHINE
NEVER A HAPPY SONG TO SING
BUT SUDDENLY HALF THE WORLD IS MINE
WHAT AN AMAZING THING

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:46 PM

6652

Wonka's Soliloquy on the WonkaTania:

THERE'S NO EARTHLY WAY OF KNOWING
WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE GOING
THERE'S NO KNOWING WHERE WE'RE ROWING
OR WHICH WAY THE RIVER'S FLOWING
IS IT RAINING
IS IT SNOWING
IS A HURRICANE A-BLOWING
BLEH!
NOT A SPECK OF LIGHT IS SHOWING
SO THE DANGER MUST BE GROWING
ARE THE FIRES OF HELL A GLOWING?
IS THE GRISLY REAPER MOWING?
YES! THE DANGER MUST BE GROWING
FOR THE ROWERS KEEP ON ROWING
AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT SHOWING
ANY SIGNS THAT THEY ARE SLOWING!

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:48 PM

6653

"I WANT A PARTY WITH ROOMFULS OF LAUGHTER
TEN THOUSAND TONS OF ICE CREAM
AND IF I DON'T GET THE THINGS I AM AFTER
I'M GOING TO SCREAM"
~Veruca Salt

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:49 PM

6654

"DON'T CARE HOW
I WANT IT NOW!
DON'T CARE HOW
I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW"
~Veruca Salt

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:49 PM

6655
 
this seems to be the most complete bibliography for Roald Dahl I have been able to locate (though I only looked for a few minutes :)). The guy sure has a lot of stuff....

Series
1. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (1964)
2. Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (1972)

Novels
The Gremlins (1943)
Sometime Never: A Fable for Supermen (1948)
James and the Giant Peach (1961)
The Magic Finger (1966)
Fantastic Mr. Fox (1970)
Danny: The Champion of the World (1975)
The Enormous Crocodile (1976)
My Uncle Oswald (1979)
The Twits (1980)
George's Marvelous Medicine (1981)
The BFG (1982)
Dirty Beasts (1983)
The Witches (1983)
The Giraffe and the Pelly and Me (1985)
Going Solo (1986)
Matilda (1988)
Esio Trot (1989)
Rhyme Stew (1989)
The Great Switcheroo (1990)
The Minpins (1991)
The Vicar of Nibbleswicke (1991)
My Year (1993)
The Mildenhall Treasure (1999)

Collections
Over to You: 10 Stories of Flyers And Flying (1946)
Someone Like You (1953)
Kiss Kiss (1959)
Selected Stories (1968)
Twenty-Nine Kisses from Roald Dahl (1969)
Switch Bitch (1974)
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar and Six More (1977)
The Complete Adventures of Charlie and Mr Willy Wonka (1978)
Tales of the Unexpected (1979)
Taste and Other Tales (1979)
More Tales of the Unexpected (1980)
A Roald Dahl Selection: Nine Short Stories (1980)
Further Tales of the Unexpected (1981)
Way Up to Heaven: And Other Stories (1981)
Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes (1982)
The Best of Roald Dahl (1983)
Boy: Tales of Childhood (1984)
The Puffin Roald Dahl Collection (1985)
Selected Works (1985)
Roald Dahl's Completely Unexpected Tales (1986)
Two Fables (1986)
The Roald Dahl Omnibus: Perfect Bedtime Stories for Sleepless Nights (1987)
A Second Roald Dahl Selection: Eight Short Stories (1987)
Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life (1988)
New Tales of the Unexpected (1988)
The Enormous Crocodile / The Magic Finger (1989)
The Collected Short Stories of Roald Dahl (1991)
The Complete Tales of the Unexpected (1991)
Edward the Conqueror: And Other Stories (1991)
Boy / Going Solo (1992)
The Vicar of Nibbleswicke and Other Stories (1992)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory / James and the Giant Peach (1994)
Lamb to the Slaughter: And Other Stories (1995)
The Roald Dahl Audio Collection (1995)
The Enormous Crocodile and The Magic Finger (1996)
The Great Automatic Grammatizator: And Other Stories (1996)
Great Mouse Plot: And Other Tales of Childhood (1996)
Revolting Rhymes and Dirty Beasts (1996)
Roald Dahl Omnibus BFG, Matilda and Georges Marvellous Medicine (1996)
The Roald Dahl Treasury (1997)
The Umbrella Man: And Other Stories (1998)
Skin: And Other Stories (2000)
Ten Short Stories (2000)
Charlie Novels Plus Henry Sugar (2001)
The Man from the South: And Other Stories (2002)

Anthologies edited

Roald Dahl's Book of Ghost Stories (1956)

Non fiction
The Dahl Diary (1991)
Roald Dahl's Guide to Railway Safety (1991)
Roald Dahl's Revolting Recipes (1994)
Roald Dahl on Tape (1995)
Autobiography (1996)
Revolting Recipes (1996)
Roald Dahl's Cookbook (1996)
Even More Revolting Recipes (2001)

Anthologies containing stories by Roald Dahl
Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow (1952)
Alfred Hitchcock Presents (1957)
Best Tales of Terror (1962)
The 3rd Fontana Book of Great Horror Stories (1968)
The Price of Fear (1976)
The 24th Pan Book of Horror Stories (1983)
The Penguin Book of Horror Stories (1984)
Realms of Darkness (1985)
The Puffin Book of Horror Stories (1986)
The Flying Sorcerers (1987)
Scare Care (1989)

Short stories
Man from the South (1948)
The Wish (1948)
The Sound Machine (1949)
Taste (1951)
Dip in the Pool (1952)
Skin (1952)
Edward the Conqueror (1953)
Galloping Foxley (1953)
Lamb to the Slaughter (1953)
Neck (1953)
Poison (1953)
The Way Up to Heaven (1954)
Nunc Dimittis (1955)
Parson's Pleasure (1958)
A fine Son (1959)
Genesis and Catastrophe (1959)
Georgy Porgy (1959)
The Landlady (1959)
Pig (1959)
Royal Jelly (1959)
William and Mary (1959)
In the Ruins (1965)
Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life (1974) The Hitch-Hiker (1977)
The Butler (1980)
The Umbrella Man (1980)
Vengeance is Mine Inc. (1980)
Bitch
The Boy Who Talked with Animals
The Champion of the World
The Great Automatic Grammatizator
The Great Switcheroo
The Last Act
Lucky Break
The Mildenhall Treasure
Mr Botibol
Mr Feasey
Mr Hoddy
Mrs Bixby and the Colonel's Coat
My Lady Love, My Dove
A Piece of Cake
The Ratcatcher
Rummins
The Soldier
The Swan
The Visitor
The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:51 PM

after looking at the list I realize that I only thought I had read a lot of his stuff (mostly as a a kid).... I am guessing that Amazon.com is going to be getting a bit o' my cash in the next few months :D

--6656--

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:53 PM

{108 more posts and I hit 1000 for this thread :p}

6657

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:54 PM

6658- Some more Movie Trivia...

The movie was filmed on location in Munich, Bavaria, Germany.

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:56 PM

6659 Milk Toast...wow...he certainly has written a lot. I might just pick up some titles myself.

The movie premiered on June 30th, 1971.

Eliza 07-02-2003 09:56 PM

6660

Willy Wonka (Gene Wilder) was present at the opening in New York City along with the Wonkamobile. Free ice cream and chocolate bars were given to all.

MilkToast 07-02-2003 09:59 PM

--6661--

MilkToast still enjoys eating "ever lasting gobstoppers"... though they have changed over the years... a lot less candy shell, smaller in size... but I still love them (and they fit in most gum ball dispensers too!)

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:00 PM

6662....lol Eliza enjoys them as well...:D

Willy Wonka fans might also be interested in taking a look at the fairly new book called Roald Dahl's Revolting Recipes. Compiled by Felicia Dahl (Roald Dahl's second wife) and illustrated by a long time Dahl collaborator, Quentin Blake, this book is a collection of recipes on how to make various food items mentioned in Dahl's books. You can learn to make lickable wallpaper and other candies from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. There was a hard-cover version released in 1994 and then a reprint in 1997 (paper-back). Note: Many of the recipes in the book are not designed for children to make. They are too difficult or require impossible to get ingredients. Both copies of the book are readily availible and still in print.

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:02 PM

"Why, having fun?" - Willy Wonka

--6663--

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:02 PM

6664- Hey! Hershey! That's close to me.

Double dose of chocolate: Milton Hershey was born September 13th in 1857. Founder of the Hershey Foods Corporation in Hershey, PA. In addition Roald Dahl, author of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", was also born on this day in 1916. What a coincidence!

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:04 PM

"Snozzberry? Who ever heard of a snozzberry? We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams."

6665

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:04 PM

6666

Reasons why Charlie (not others) won the chocolate factory:

Augustus fell into the river of chocolate.
Violet ate 3-course meal gum and turned into a blueberry.
Veruca wanted a golden goose and was rejected as a "bad egg."
Mike was shrunk when transmitted into TV.

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:06 PM

"Who can take tomorrow, dip it in a dream, separate the sorrow and collect up all the cream."

6667

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:07 PM

Oh! That's a good one Milk Toast!


What did the Golden Ticket really say? When Grandpa Joe reads the ticket he leaves a couple words out. Here it is in its entirety...

WONKA'S GOLDEN TICKET
Greetings to you, the lucky finder of this
Golden Ticket from Mr. Willy Wonka.
Present this ticket at the factory gates at ten o'clock
in the morning of the first day of October and do not
be late. You may bring with you one member of your
own family...and only one...but no one else.
In your wildest dreams you could not imagine the marvelous SURPRISES that await YOU!

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:09 PM

6669

A cut scene! This scene was cut from the movie. During the world-wide rush to get the golden tickets, a mountain climber goes to the top of a mountain to see a guru. He asks, "What is the meaning of life?" "You got Wonka bar?" asks the guru. The climber hands him a Wonka bar. The guru unwraps the bar, and finds nothing. The guru says, "Life is a disappointment." Nobody laughed at it during a screening, so someone (the director?) showed it to a psychologist. The psychologist said "Nobody laughed, because for many people, life IS a disappointment." So the scene was cut.

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:09 PM

Eliza,
Quote:
In your wildest dreams you could not imagine the marvelous SURPRISES that await YOU!

now add that to your sig
Quote:
"I want you. I don't want anybody else. And when I think about you, I touch myself. Oooo....oooo....ooooo"

he he he :p

6670

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eliza
6669

A cut scene! This scene was cut from the movie. During the world-wide rush to get the golden tickets, a mountain climber goes to the top of a mountain to see a guru. He asks, "What is the meaning of life?" "You got Wonka bar?" asks the guru. The climber hands him a Wonka bar. The guru unwraps the bar, and finds nothing. The guru says, "Life is a disappointment." Nobody laughed at it during a screening, so someone (the director?) showed it to a psychologist. The psychologist said "Nobody laughed, because for many people, life IS a disappointment." So the scene was cut.

yeah, well then most people don't have a sense of humor... 'cause that is pretty darn funny!

6671

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MilkToast
Eliza,
now add that to your sig
he he he :p
6670


lmao @ Milk Toast..:D

And you are very right...most people don't have a sense of humor...it would have been funny.

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:15 PM

6673

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was the first live-action feature film financed by the Quaker Oats Company. It did so poorly in its initial theatrical run that the company never dabbled in movies again instead sticking to Saturday morning television.

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:16 PM

6674
We are the music makers and We are the dreamers of dreams" was a quote from an ode by Arthur Shaungenssy. It goes like this:
We are the music makers.
We are the dreamers of dreams.
Wandering by lone sea breakers.
Sitting by desolate streams.
World losers and world forsakers on whom the pale moon gleams.
And yet we are the movers and the shakers of the world forever
it seems.

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:20 PM

Eliza, this is most excellent trivia...
6675

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:21 PM

6676

There is a punk/pop band, based out of L.A., billing itself as Vermicious K. One of the band's members, Michael, has dubbed himself Mike T.V. for their live gigs. They decided to call their first album "scrumdidilyumptious". Needless to say, they are fans of the movie.

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MilkToast
Eliza, this is most excellent trivia...
6675


6677
Thank You Hun. I'm glad you're enjoying it.:p

MilkToast 07-02-2003 10:23 PM

6678

from www.us.imdb.com

Full Cast and Crew for Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Gene Wilder .... Willy Wonka
Jack Albertson .... Grandpa Joe
Peter Ostrum .... Charlie Bucket
Roy Kinnear .... Mr. Henry Salt
Julie Dawn Cole .... Veruca Salt
Leonard Stone .... Mr. Sam Beauregarde
Denise Nickerson .... Violet Beauregarde
Nora Denney .... Mrs. Teevee (as Dodo Denney)
Paris Themmen .... Mike Teevee
Ursula Reit .... Mrs. Gloop
Michael Bollner .... Augustus Gloop
Diana Sowle .... Mrs. Bucket
Aubrey Woods .... Bill, candy store owner
David Battley .... Mr. Turkentine
Günter Meisner .... Arthur Slugworth
Peter Capell .... The Tinker
Werner Heyking .... Mr. Jopeck, newspaper stand owner
Peter Stuart (I) .... Winkelmann
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Dora Altmann .... Grandma Georgina (uncredited)
Rudy Borgstaller .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Tim Brooke-Taylor .... Computer Operator (uncredited)
George Claydon .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Pat Coombs .... Henrietta Salt (uncredited)
Frank Delfino .... Auctioneer (uncredited)
Malcolm Dixon .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Stephen Dunne (I) .... Newscaster (uncredited)
Rusty Goffe .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Shin Hamano .... Japanese Candy Store Owner (uncredited)
Ismed Hassan .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Franziska Liebing .... Grandma Josephine (uncredited)
Gloria Manon .... Mrs. Cruthers (uncredited)
Norman McGlen .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Angelo Muscat .... Oompa-Loompa (uncredited)
Anthony Newley .... Candy Store Man (uncredited)
Ed Peck .... FBI Agent (uncredited)
Pepe Poupee .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Marcus Powell .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Bob Roe .... Peter Goff (uncredited)
Albert Wilkinson .... Oompa Loompa (uncredited)
Ernst Ziegler .... Grandpa George (uncredited)

Eliza 07-02-2003 10:27 PM

6679
The building used for the front of the chocolate factory was The Munich Gas Works. Peter Goff made the doorway and the inside, of course, was all filmed on a set.


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